Proposal:Shop=tortilla

shop=tortilla
Proposal status:	Voting (under way)
Proposed by:	CENTSOARER
Tagging:	shop=tortilla Data item
Applies to:
Definition:	A shop selling tortillas to the public as the main product.
Statistics:
Draft started:	2021-08-11
RFC start:	2024-04-25
Vote start:	2024-05-12
Vote end:	2024-05-26

Proposal

Use the tag shop=tortilla to map a shop selling tortillas to the public. Tortillas must be the main product sold in the shop, but other foods and tools used to make tortillas by hand may be found in these shops.

Secondly, identify the base grain used to produce these tortillas and tag with grain=maize and/or grain=wheat, etc. Places selling tortillas produced from different grains could use semicolons, as in grain=maize;wheat. Try not to make any assumptions, though, the reader of the map will probably assume the grain from their local context with a shop=tortilla without a grain=* key.

The revised entry for a tortilla shop

Key	Value	Elements	Description	Shop
shop	tortilla		A shop selling tortillas to the public as the main product. Customers may also find other tortilla related products like salsas, fried tortillas (totopos), lime and some tools to produce handmade tortillas.

New tags to use in combination

It is important to note that this table only covers the two most basic grains used to make tortillas. The values shouldn't be taken as exclusive of each other. Nevertheless, varieties of grains exist and can be common to produce tortillas, like the blue maize variety (grain=blue_maize?). It is up to the contributors to expand the possible values of the grain=* key, since it requires collective knowledge to be exhaustive on this topic.

Key	Possible Values	Description	Product
grain	maize	Original tortillas are made from nixtamalized maize (see Corn tortilla on Wikipedia), but nowadays, the dough is usually made from corn flour. While "corn" is used in the Wikipedia article, "maize" is the noun used in British English, more formal and closer to the original and scientific name of the plant.
	wheat	Wheat tortillas are also common in some places. These are called "flour tortillas" (tortillas de harina) in Mexico and the USA, but both are usually made from flour.

Rationale

Right now, we tag tortilla shops mostly as bakeries, and contributors regularly prepend the word Tortillería to the shop's name, description, or note. As of 2021-08-11, five POIs already use this tag, but due to confusion, contributors have mapped around 1000 tortilla shops as bakeries, generic shops (shop=yes), restaurants, fast food places, convenience stores, etc. This tagging system has been barely acceptable because a lot of tortilla shops specify they are tortilla shops in their name, but this is commonly not the case. The severity of not having a standard tag is shown in this list of unusual shop key values in Mexico [1] made by Mateusz Konieczny (on osm, edits, contrib, heatmap, chngset com.), where you can count ten forms of tagging these type of shops: shop=Tortilla, shop=Tortilleria, shop=tortillería, etc.

Tortilla shops are not really close enough to a bakery. The literal translation for “bakery” in Spanish is panadería, which refers explicitly to baked bread (pan), and has a whole different meaning than tortillería. Also, the tortilla shop element is not local anymore, they are common from the USA to Central America, probably also present in South America and Europe.

Aside from the product itself, most tortilla shops use an electrical machine called a tortilladora (a tortilla-maker machine) displayed at sight, customers usually can see or hear them working. Exhibition of the products to the public on trays as in bakeries is not a common practice, tortillas are just piled up somewhere inside the shop. Typically, customers do not purchase by the piece, but rather by the weight. However, in the uncommon case of handmade tortillas, they are frequently sold by the tens or dozens. Some busy tortilla shops may have several employees at the bar and a whole team of others operating the machines or crafting the handmade tortillas at sight if they are produced there. It is as far from a bakery or more than a pastry shop.

Tagging

Elements tagged: nodes, areas and relations. Mostly and ideally as nodes placed on the main bar where they attend customers. Little buildings and relation-buildings can also represent a tortilla shop.

Handmade tortillas and other close cases

This section should not be taken as a part of the proposal, but as a complementary recommendation. After several weeks of discussion and research, the use of the namespace food:*=* seems to be the most practical way to deal with special cases related to tortilla sellers. It is important to say that, this key is fully documented, it is robust and already covers the handmade case, but usage by the community is important to establish tagging keys and values within the namespace.

One common issue is how to highlight the places that sell handmade tortillas, since they will often look and operate differently than the common tortillería. Since this proposal should be used for both places, the idea to distinguish them is by using the namespace food:*=* as in food:tortilla=handmade.

There are bakeries where you can find wheat tortillas (see the table above), mostly packed in plastic bags. If so, it might be specified as a product sold there, similar to drinks in a bar, e.g. food:tortilla=yes/packed. Also, there are convenience stores in the business of selling tortillas but not as the main product, these can be tagged using a close namespace sells:tortilla=yes.

Examples

See the table titled “The revised entry for a tortilla shop” in the Proposal section. A typical tortilla shop photograph is linked in the last column.

Rendering

I uploaded this icon that could be used to render tortilla shops. The concept is of a pile of tortillas wrapped in paper or in a towel, as they are usually dispatched in tortillerías. Notice that trying to portray all cases is impossible, at least this proposal is not tied to the tortilla-maker machine design of the older icon. It is important to highlight that it is basically ready to use, since it follows the most important directives of the OSM Carto team. If the voting is favorable, the icon will be submitted immediately, and I will try my best to push this proposal into iD.

Features/Pages affected

shop=tortilla would be created, Key:shop would be modified to list this key. A complementary grain=* key would be created. It is expected that this key could be used outside the shop=tortilla domain.

External discussions

[RFC] Feature proposal - use shop=tortilla for tortilla shops and tortillerías on the OSM Community Forum.

Another thread with some insight here (Spanish, Mexico).

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• I approve this proposal. No sé si como autor de la propuesta mi voto cuenta, pero aquí va. --CENTSOARER (talk) 20:54, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• I approve this proposal. concuerdo con la protesta de etiqueta --Mapeadora (talk) 21:01, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• I approve this proposal. this is a required missing tag in certain countries in LA, I approve its usage --JAAS (talk) 21:52, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• I approve this proposal. Una propuesta tan lógica. Gracias por considerar nuestros comentarios en el foro. – Minh Nguyễn ^💬 22:12, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

• I approve this proposal. --rhhs (talk) 05:49, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
• I approve this proposal. -- Something B (talk) 09:42, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
• I approve this proposal. --Fabi2 (talk) 12:40, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

• I approve this proposal. <- Estoy de acuerdo con la propuesta de etiqueta --ChicoXXX (talk) 18:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
• I approve this proposal. --Map HeRo (talk) 19:32, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
• I approve this proposal. Important shop type not just in Latin America, but also anywhere with a significant population of Latin Americans. Concept is not adequately represented by current tagging, so this tag fills a need. --Willkmis (talk) 20:30, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
• I approve this proposal. --Magick93 (talk) 22:12, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

• I approve this proposal. A standardized tag like this was long overdue. Excellent proposal. Txixoqbqjy (talk) 02:08, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
• I approve this proposal. --Chicxulub Kukulkan (talk) 04:53, 13 May 2024 (UTC)